In a span of less than three years, it appears that Thorsen was arrested four times for a number of charges including:
- carrying a concealed weapon, and
- grand theft with a firearm.
In a span of less than three years, it appears that Thorsen was arrested four times for a number of charges including:
WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been spending large amounts on airfare as a congressman, flying first class on dozens of taxpayer-funded flights to his home state. The practice conflicts with the image that Paul portrays as the only presidential candidate serious about cutting federal spending.
I really don’t give a damn if he wrote his newsletters or not. The fact is, he published them from his home, he was listed as the editor and publisher on many issues of these letters, his face and signature was planted all over each issue, they sounded like he was talking in first person about “my wife Carrol” and so on, and besides that he made MILLIONS off of this kind of disgusting BS! IT’S NO EXCUSE! 20 years later he is somehow MORE responsible to run a country? He’s the one who voted for term limits year after year in the 80’s and 90’s! The man is a hypocrite and he is much older which does not help things at all. Ron Paul is disgusting.
Read the wonderful spam comments by his fan. The top rated comment happens to use the N-word. HOW FITTING!
Thursday, November 15, 2007
“Ron Paul, the Anti-Republican candidate for President and a favorite of White Supremacists like David Duke, has unveiled a new defense strategy to counter charges of Anti-semitism. The campaign of the candidate who claims to disdain ethnic collectivism now boasts an organization called “Jews for Ron Paul.”
If Jews for Ron Paul puts you in mind of Jews for Jesus, you’re not far wrong. Because Jews for Ron Paul is a scam.
Jim C. Perry (James Christian Perry, the C is short for Christian), the Executive Director of Jews for Ron Paul and heavily featured as the spokesman for the front group. Like many Jews for Jesus figures, Jim C. Perry claims to be an Orthodox Jew.The JTA article featured many of Perry’s grandiose claims.
For Perry, an Orthodox Jew, there is a connection between his own religious beliefs about personal responsibility and the Libertarian philosophy underpinning Paul’s candidacy.The real Jim C. Perry though is not an Orthodox Jew, though he makes a point of dressing up like one until he’s virtually a cartoon. He’s gay and is currently married to a gay man and a self-identified Churchgoing Unitarian Universalist. Here he identifies himself as a Seminarian. He has another account where he calls himself Reverend Jim C. Perry H.P., M.D.A. (he also claimed to have a doctorate in English which he apparently modestly left off here all at the tender age of 22) and a Pagan Minister. Briefly he appears to have gone Ward Churchill and began calling himself Jim FlyingEagle. (He may have also usedJames L. Rush and posted at Cherokee Pride as James L. Rushing River pretending to be Cherokee)
“It’s the idea that people are meant to be equal and free in a just society. Those are the same things that draw me to be an observant Orthodox Jew,” said Perry. “I believe Judaism puts strong emphasis on individual meaning, personal responsibility,” he said, adding that God “calls us to take responsibility for our own actions.”.
Here I am a kipah-wearing, fringes-hanging Orthodox Jew…
GOP NOT KKK
by Pagan GOP (Concord, NH)
I am quite offended by the person who the comment that the KKK and GOP are one and the same. I am a PROUD Republican and Pagan. I was hurt by your comments.
No, I do not support the War in Iraq, no Republican in his right mind would! Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Orrin Hatch, all GOPer in Congress were OPPOSED to the War!
I am very Liberty Minded.
Perry, who is gay, said he wants to help Democratic lawmakers protect and extend civil liberties in New Hampshire. Perry’s marriage is recognized by his Quaker faith but not New Hampshire law.
It is obvious that Palestine under the British Mandate – an island of freedom and free enterprise as compared to rule by Istambul or Tel Aviv – led its citizens to a love affair with the gold sovereign that becomes more entrenched with time… My Palestinians haven’t been calling much lately asking the price of the COIN. Their future doesn’t look too bright, but they have survived horrible oppression in and around Israel, and, maybe, just maybe they will persevere.”The bulk of the “Jews for Ron Paul” board are associated with LewRockwell.com and with Mises and the Austrian School of Economics. Then there’s Ilana Mercer, a WND columnist (a site which hosts pro-israel commentary but also the anti-semitic and anti-israel ravings of Pat Buchanan and Vox Day among others) who penned such articles as “Al Jazeera: Fair, Balanced & Banned”
“The only fair shake Israel ever gets in this country’s media is from Al-Jazeera. The women anchors are also beautiful and refined,”Lovely.
This is a serious letter to the many Paul bots that scour this blog, looking for a glimmer of hope that anti-war or anti-drug law leftists can be converted into the fold. I admire your devotion to your candidate, although, at the same time you have already labeled me an Obama-bot, a proud mindless drone beholden to the Republicrats in your mind. Well, think what you will, but I can give you a run down of why it is that Ron Paul will not win the GOP primary, and even if by some miracle he did, would never beat Obama in an election. It’s not possible.
Your first hurdle is to get past other Republicans. Seriously. This has always been your main struggle. Your alliance with theocrats and fascists has always been a tenuous one, I know. Rachel Maddow pointed out just how looked down upon Ron Paul is on FOX News, which is the mouthpiece of the Republican establishment. Yes, it is disgusting how it is that he is treated for his views. I would like you to notice, however, that liberals usually are the ones pointing this out and have him on their shows, ala the Jay Leno, etc. We can’t be trying to suck you into our Orwellian big government and at the same time host you on our shows and let you speak your piece. To Republicans, Ron Paul is essentially mistrusted as not having the proper bona fides to keep gays from living happy lives, exterminating Muslims, defending Israel until the Sky God returns, and making sure that drugs are only used by rich people while the poor are converted into money for the privatized prison system. Yes, I heart his stance on foreign policy and his stance on the war on drugs makes me giddy (see the intellectual honesty?) , but I do find everything else unworkable and shocking. The thing is though, you don’t have to convince me of anything, you have to convince the theocrats and the fascists, and they are having none of you.
See, I knew the Tea Party thing was a complete hoax from the beginning in terms of their being “real conservatives.” You are absolutely correct when you say Paul is a consistent far right candidate truly evocative of what conservatism is in its purest form. This is why the teabaggers will never go for you. Your ability to ignore crazy when it is not directly linked to the government is astounding. Maybe Republican style hypocrisy has to be laid bare for you to finally understand it, but these people do not really care about the deficit, nor do they care about the country. Well, they do care about their country, because in their minds, the country is only made up of people they agree with, who are in the “in” group in terms of religion, ethnicity, and adherence to their world view. Michele Bachmann is their hero, not Paul. The man who heckled Elizabeth Warren, saying that the Tea Party was originally against Wall Street, is more indicative of the dissonance you have to contend with. The Tea Party has not stopped home foreclosures, they have not called on anyone on Wall Street to be prosecuted, and their solution is to just continue letting banksters do more of what they did to get us in this mess. I mean, if you needed a starker demonstration of the intellectual dishonesty of your would-be allies, the head of Teabagger Nation went on Martin Bashir’s show and thought Newt Gingrich was great; a Washington outsider who was an historian for Fannie and Freddie and a true conservative. Tea Party thumbs up!
W T F
So, I do not see how you go into New Hampshire and sell Paul. Yeah, he won some straw poll for young republicans; no surprises there. But those things are not indicative of anyone’s future performance and Romney out-polls him by a crushing margin. And frankly, I have no clue how you are going to sell him to the theocratic fascists in South Carolina. Sure, they get off hearing about ending Social Security, but if they do not see Ron Paul in Israel genuflecting before Netanyahu, then they are not going to be satisfied. Pat Robertson is going to dig through old videos and remind people that not banning gay people on a federal level is bad. By the way, his comments on Jay Leno were spot on, but they pissed people off (although they made me smile!). Not that Michele Bachmann has a lot of supporters, but essentially he was declaring himself sane, which doesn’t go over well with Republican primary voters. I really commend you for trying to customize his campaign for the Iowans by reminding them that Paul loves babies, Jesus, and will allow them to live free from Negros. It really shows your dedication and love of your candidate, but sadly, even if he wins there it is not going to translate to people who are more hardcore than the state where they hate government, but stuff their faces with farm subsidies.
Now, I know you say he transcends people’s ideologies, backgrounds, and he is an ideas candidate. That really is all very refreshing and I am sure there are people on your forums that help you think this way. I’m sure there are disaffected Obama voters and super anti war progressives who have joined your ranks for a tentative alliance, and who most likely do not care all that much about social programs or have yet to hear him talk at length about people carrying gold ingots to the marketplace in wheelbarrows. But know this: they are not like you. If Ron Paul is not up, they are not going to stay home and protest voting for a RINO, they will go for Obama as the candidate of last resort, so I wouldn’t trust too much in these people allying with you. Heck, I was one of you until I heard Paul thought Medicare was unconstitutional despite the fact it was deemed constitutional.
Now, let’s say that you really work it, you really undo the effect of FOX News in South Carolina and Florida. I say this because FOX is really your enemy; the actual liberal people on MSNBC will actually talk about him once they see that he is doing well in the polls and not in a necessarily dismissive tone. Let’s say Paul gets the Republican nomination by sweeping aside Karl Rove, the Bushes, most of the Super Christian organizations who want gay people carted away to reeducation facilities, and stands toe to toe with Obama. I’m sorry, but now you’ve got an even harder fight on your hands. The Republicans will probably revolt, and the Tea Baggers, fearing that a decisive blow to the non-Whites will not be given by Paul, will prolly run a third party candidate. Then, you have to pretty much defend ending Medicare, Social Security, no student loans, and not putting regulations on Wall Street banksters to the general public. Killing Medicare does not go well. It did not go well for Paul Ryan and it will not go well for you. Your strategy would then be to hand wave over those things, and talk about the wars. Well, Obama ended one of them, and while being patient on waiting for the economy is a hard sell for him, it is a much easier sell to say “Look, I ended one war, and I’m doing it responsibly just as I promised on the campaign trail.” Centrists will lean with the person that doesn’t radicalize things out of a sense of feeling responsible, and then Paul gets his ass handed to him on election day. Oh, and by the way, switching to a gold standard would send the economy into a tailspin, as Paul himself has said, so that’s not really on the agenda at all.
You constantly deride others, especially Obama supporters, for being enthralled with a candidate like a gaggle of wild animals, incapable of rational, dispassionate thought and instead running towards our world leaders like rock stars who will bring the cargo. Well, I hate to say this, but you do the exact same thing. You are just as rabid, just as fanatical, just as willing to believe that one man will change the course of history and sweep aside all of the darkness plaguing you. You envision him being assassinated for going up against the Fed or the industrial military complex, or that he is the candidate that will bring peace where Obama only brings war. I hate to break this to you, but a lot of people in this country aren’t actually against war per se, they just don’t like being lied to. I’m young as well, so I know why it is you feel so inspired and are willing to really work so hard to get him in, and you really believe that he is the “only one” talking about X, Y, and Z. Well, this is where the idealism train has to end. Whether you think it is logical or not, whether or not you think that Americans will wake up and suddenly become rational automatons or have a mass conversion to your political religion, you are dealing with Americans as they are.
“Paul has been in Congress, off and on, for nearly 30 years. In that time, he will rightly tell you, Congress has spent money with reckless abandon, expanded the state’s police powers, launched numerous wars without a declaration of war and further embraced fiat money (he got into politics when Richard Nixon took us fully off the gold standard). During all of that, he took to the floor and delivered passionate speeches in protest convincing … nobody.
Paul’s supporters love to talk about how he was a lone voice of dissent. They never explain why he was alone in his dissent. Why couldn’t he convince even his ideologically sympathetic colleagues? Why is there no Ron Paul caucus?
Now he insists that everyone in Washington will suddenly do what he wants once he’s in the White House. That’s almost painfully naïve. And it’s ironic that the only way the libertarian-pure-constitutionalist in the race could do the things he’s promising is by using powers not in the Constitution.”
VIA: Catholic Bandita
Isn’ t it funny that Ron Paul supporters can come up with some of the most outrageous conspiracy theories known to man — like that the government is making kids gay with juice boxes – and yet somehow ignore the “Ron Paul Newsletters” which clearly demonstrate, at minimum, Paul’s willingness to include racism and racists as an integral part of his movement?
Jeffrey Lord brings up the issue again, as we do every time Paul runs for president as a matter of patriotic duty, in an article at The American Spectator.
To refresh, Reason magazine came out with a detailed piece on the Paul newsletters back in 2008. The piece was written by reporters Julian Sanchez and David Weigel.
The article was as disturbing as it was alarming.
Here, according to Reason, was a potential Republican nominee for president who had for whatever rationale acquiesced to having a newsletter sent out under his name that used the most vile of racist language.
Generally, this issue is brought up in terms of whether Ron Paul could possibly be electable. Where I come from on it is in terms of his incompetence as a leader. Ron Paul does not lead patriots. Ron Paul leads people who live in fear of government, and who follow him in cultish fashion. His base supporters have blind faith in him and zero faith in anyone else who serves in government with the possible exception of his son Rand. That is not leadership. It takes more than establishing a cult to be a leader.
Leaders inspire people to espouse virtues. That is, Godly principles. Leaders inspire people to recognize their responsibilities as members of society to make the world a better place in which to live and which to bequeath to posterity. Leaders do not “inspire” people to attribute evil motivations to others. In order to believe in conspiracy theories one must be willing to attribute evil motivations to others, something that Paul supporters seem to wallow in.
I do not attribute evil motivations to Ron Paul for the racist newsletters. I don’t know what’s in his heart. I can’t judge his heart. At the same time, I expect certain things from people who expect me to assent to their being leaders in our country. One of the things that I expect from leaders is that they not be like Pigpen, as Jeffrey Lord aptly puts it, especially on matters as serious as racism.
Mark Levin has taken all kinds of heat for exposing this business over the last few months. The sheer nuttiness of the Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant/James Madison and the Founding Fathers never intervened anywhere stuff, the latter flatly untrue. Not to mention the and-oh-by-the-way-pay-no-attention-to-all that-anti-Semitic-stuff that trails the Paul candidacy like the little cloud of dirt that used to follow the Peanuts cartoon character Pigpen around.
Pigpen, as a matter of fact, once said of all the dirt following him around: “Being dirty is a practical matter…I’m never bothered by girls or mosquitos.”
I pray Iowa knows better than to support Ron Paul for President.
I don’t think legitimizing these types of people is a good idea and a vote for Ron Paul would indeed do that.